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| lazerbem | Nov 21 2016, 09:40 PM Post #46 |
 
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It shouldn't be legal just like alcohol and cigs shouldn't be legal but end up being so because criminals use it anyway. Weed isn't some miracle on Earth. Just dopes a person up for a while and reeks. |
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| Daemon Keido | Nov 21 2016, 09:57 PM Post #47 |
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That is true of many addictive substances, I would argue. Everyone can become an addict on a long enough timescale. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Nov 21 2016, 10:13 PM Post #48 |
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I would agree, but the human brain is a complicated contraption. Anyone can become addicted to anything for any reason. |
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| Dankness Lava | Nov 21 2016, 10:17 PM Post #49 |
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But smoking weed isn't gonna cause someone to go out and do crazy stuff. I think for weed, and cigarettes for that matter, that this is a weak point. |
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| * Mitas | Nov 21 2016, 11:46 PM Post #50 |
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It's both. Other problems lead you to the drug, addiction keeps you there. |
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| + Steve | Nov 21 2016, 11:59 PM Post #51 |
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Yeah but the drugs addictive properties don't really keep you there it's how prone you are as a person to addiction that does, since it's not very physically addictive. As said that can apply to anything. Weed being an illicit substance changes nothing, if it's not weed it could be bread or cheese, both of which could cause you serious health problems if you consumed too much. Weed just makes you feel good your mind might make you want more but your body doesn't so easily crave it the same way it might with nicotine or more hardcore drugs were you can be having seizures and all sorts if you don't get a fix. |
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| lazerbem | Nov 22 2016, 12:20 AM Post #52 |
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I was referring to drug dealers who finance other crimes when I said criminals. That was the reason Prohibition failed and why, unfortunately, the same occurs with weed. Edited by lazerbem, Nov 22 2016, 12:20 AM.
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| Political Piper | Nov 22 2016, 01:38 AM Post #53 |
 
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A big factor people are missing is that the War on Drugs is a never ending war, and a losing war at that. The USA spends 51 billion on the war on drugs a year, I don't know how much is designated toward pot and pot criminal offenses, but I'm sure it's a significant number. We spend too much the way it is, and considering pot isn't as severe as heroin, there's no point continuing a war that produces billions of dollars in deficit spending annually. |
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| Sam | Nov 22 2016, 08:52 AM Post #54 |
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"Man, you can't even call this s*** a war." "Why not?" "Wars end." "Maybe this whole thing is over and nobody decided to tell us... maybe we won." The Wire bleeds the truth. Saying you don't like the smell of weed so it should be illegal is like me saying I don't want to hear your loud music because I legitimately don't like listening to music. Therefore, it should be illegal. Like, what? There is no line of sensible logic here. You can argue semantics on this example forever I am sure, to death, but my point has been made lol. Far too tired to come up with a better one. The smell isn't a health hazard and I would guess that many, not all, people that have a problem with the smell actually don't come into contact with it much, so why police people outside of your safe space? I grew up around it and hated that, I still do. Though it did teach me to take breaks, as long as a year, before toking again. Tl;dr: Stay outta my bedroom and personal life if you don't want me policing yours. Edited by Sam, Nov 22 2016, 08:56 AM.
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| lazerbem | Nov 22 2016, 03:17 PM Post #55 |
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It is in many places though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loud_music
Take a look at users who live in apartments that share ventilation, the whole building gets the smell up through the ventilation and everyone suffers for it. It's not that it's a health hazard, it's that it's a massive pain to everyone around you in the same way that loud music is. |
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| Sam | Nov 22 2016, 05:20 PM Post #56 |
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It is yeah, I agree. It does permeate apartment buildings. You're right - in those cases, where you live in a building with other people, it should unacceptable to smoke ANYTHING. Cigarettes stink up the place and smell far worse, and chances are that people will be doing both if one or the other is going on. Loud music is really only against the law in places like apartment complexes... and I have never seen a noise complaint during the day - ever. Whereas many people work night shifts and such, I would argue that the music is worse because your nose at least adjusts to smells. Like how people get comfortable with the smell of a farm where I live. My point is, we can't do a broad stroke approach with marijuana because many people will be doing it harmlessly in their own homes. I think it should be legalized and like with the loud music analogy, it should be illegal (a misdemeanor with a hefty fine should do well enough) to smoke in apartments, duplexes, and in unventilated places. Add enforcement of that more than today by incentivizing people to not smoke/rat on people who are stinking up the place. We don't enforce this right now and because marijuana is illegal, people are very careful with concealing it so the police can't just go bashing doors in. It's not perfect but it is a better solution, IMO, than telling everybody that they can't do something. The average cost to keep a prisoner for a year is around that of a year of a Harvard tuition. I think we can probably stop locking people up and destroying lives over it, and cannibalizing taxpayer dollars. We have more incarcerated citizens than most if not all first world countries, partially because our marijuana laws are so prehistoric. If you look it up, many of our founding fathers in America were pot farmers and it was made illegal due to propaganda against the hemp industry because it was affecting the logging industry. At least part of the reason anyway. They also made movies where the antagonist has gone on a serial killing/psychotic rampage from smoking weed. Yeah... lol. |
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Nov 22 2016, 05:28 PM Post #57 |
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I don't really get your point. Smoking is against the rules at almost every apartment complex out there. |
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| lazerbem | Nov 22 2016, 05:57 PM Post #58 |
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 The USA is hardly alone in first world countries for penalties on weed usage.
The Founding Fathers were also slave owners and believed they were doing blacks a favor by keeping them in slavery. I've already said I agree with the practicality of legalizing marijuana simply due to the fact that making it illegal hasn't worked, I just don't agree with the moral principle of it in the same vein that I understand why alcohol and cigarettes are legal. |
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| Cid | Dec 2 2016, 02:12 AM Post #59 |
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I think it should be legalized. According to the State Board of Equalization, it is estimated that the state would see $1.4 billion in tax revenue and reduced enforcement cost through the legalization of marijuana. This may not completely fix our enormous deficit, but it is an untapped, very attainable resource. With another potential 12 to 18 billion dollars in peripheral benefits associated with other businesses such as hemp production, tourism brought by Amsterdam-type coffee houses, etc., as well as an increase in employment the new industry would create, it is likely that the legalization of marijuana will have an even bigger impact than projected. |
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